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  Why the Organization is Rotting

  by metatron in

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  the following is a true story - with proper names removed.. i offer it as instructive of why the organization is.

  in its present state of decay.. once upon a time, there was a bethelite named brother k.. he quickly established a reputation for being judgemental.

  and extreme - no small feat among jw's and bethel at that!.

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  Brother K. sounds worse than Weigel...
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  Alternative Cancer Treatments-help

  by Tatiana in

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  if anyone has any first-hand knowledge of this type of therapy, or has an opinion on an alternative to chemo, could you please let me know?

  it's very important.

  i have a friend who has cervical cancer.

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  I looked over the information in the links you've provided, and I feel I have a better understanding of what O3 therapy is about. I had mistakenly imagiined that the ozone would be inhaled. Now I understand that it is probably autohemotherapy and vaginal insufflation that your friend is considering. I found it interesting that the claim for ozone is not that it is itself a "magic bullet" but that by delivering additional oxygen to the blood cells it enhances their natural activity. Also of interest was the statement that ozone treatments cause no harm.

  In the past I've heard of suggested links between cervical cancer and herpes type virii and the apparent effectiveness of ozone therapy against herpes is very interesting, to say the least.

  Given what I've just learned, if I or a loved one was facing as serious a medical threat as your friend is, I would urge them to investigate this treatment. I would also encourage them not to abandon the standard treatments.
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  Alternative Cancer Treatments-help

  by Tatiana in

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  if anyone has any first-hand knowledge of this type of therapy, or has an opinion on an alternative to chemo, could you please let me know?

  it's very important.

  i have a friend who has cervical cancer.

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  I'm sure the people offering the ozone therapy are not offering it for free - they too are probably in it "for the money", and there is nothing wrong with that. Barbequed chickens do not just fly into our mouths; people (and businesses) have expenses.

  Ozone, as you probably know, is a form of oxygen. In nature, oxygen is usually found in two atom pairs - the familiar O2 - ozone is three atoms of oxygen bound together by shared electrons, O3. What makes ozone so potent is that it is an unstable molecule and ready breaks onto a stable O2 and a highly reactive O, called "nascent" or "newborn" oxygen. Those single Os don't hang around long either - they either combine with an other single O from another ozone molecule or bind with whatever happens to be nearby.

  2O3-->3O2

  I've heard that in high concentrations, ozone can be as dangerous as chlorine because the single O atoms will damage (burn) lung tissue. In low concentrations there is probably no danger - ozone is what makes the air smell so fresh after a thunderstorm. I'd be skeptical that any amount of inhaled ozone would actually enter the patient's bloodstream - it would have reverted to the common form of oxygen, bound to hemoglobin, by then.

  If excess oxygen has a curative effect, why not just get into a hyperbaric (high pressure) oxygen chamber?

  Within another generation, medical science will have found the secret of producing antibodies for all forms of cancer - there are already some in human trials, and more will follow. Our grandchildren may live their lives without having to face this threat.
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  Alternative Cancer Treatments-help

  by Tatiana in

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  if anyone has any first-hand knowledge of this type of therapy, or has an opinion on an alternative to chemo, could you please let me know?

  it's very important.

  i have a friend who has cervical cancer.

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  I need to preface this by stating that I am not endorsing this treatment, and I have no experience with it, but you asked for information, and expressed a sense of urgency...

  Have you heard of Essiac Tea? It's an herbal compound, and you can read about it here: http://www.essiac-resperin.com/en/index.html

  A web search will provide many more hits.

  I wish the best for your friend, and for you.

  Your mention of ozone made me think of hydrogen peroxide infusions - both have the effect of getting more oxygen to the tissues of the body. Hydrogen Peroxide, by the way, is produced naturally by the body and is one of the body's primary methods of killing invading organisms.
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  Coming soon: 6 course meal on-the-hoof!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  now we've got the meat and veggies; tomorrow we'll add soup, salad, rolls, and desert!.

  thursday january 24 3:37 am et .

  japanese scientists breed pigs with spinach genes.

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  Now we've got the meat and veggies; tomorrow we'll add soup, salad, rolls, and desert!

  Thursday January 24 3:37 AM ET
  Japanese Scientists Breed Pigs with Spinach Genes
  TOKYO (Reuters) - Meat lovers may one day worry a little bit less about their fat intake thanks to Japanese scientists who say they have produced healthier pork by breeding pigs implanted with spinach genes...

  Get the full text here: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020124/sc/science_japan_pork_dc_1.html

  "I think the world of the future will be funnier than the world of today!"
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  Seattle Times runs pedophile story

  by Mulan in

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  finally, it hits our papers.

  http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134394417_jehovah23m.html.

  "no one can take advantage of you, without your permission.

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  Thank you Marilyn!

  and thank you, DakotaRed, for reminding us of the WTS' eagerness to defend CATHOLIC silent lambs.
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  Millions of flies now living may NEVER die!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  from: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_502610.html?menu= .

  scientists move closer to finding 'elixir of life' .

  scientists working on a discovering an elixir of life say it has already worked on fruit flies.. the drug is said to increase longevity while maintaining youthful health.. us researchers are confident enough to be planning a new set of experiments on mice.

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  Jehovah - Lord Of The Flies!
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  Going to the Service Meeting Next Week

  by TR in

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  i'm going to the meeting.

  yep, that's right.

  and, i'm taking a tape recorder.

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  Hey TR,

  You've told us many times about your enormous schlong: now we learn that you also have HUGE brass 'nads!

  Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!
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  Brain Washing of John Walker

  by Victor_E in

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  this morning on the way to work i was listening to the john walker story and they quoted an immanent expert on brain washing, according to her this will most likely be his defense.

  what his team of lawyers will attempt to prove is that he was a highly impressionable teenager who was misled and brainwashed.

  i am sure this is going to raise very interesting issues.

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  Was John Walker indoctrinated? Yes.

  Was he "brainwashed"? Absolutely not, and neither were we.

  I'm surprised that the "expert" on brainwashing neglected to mention that this process speifically required that the conversion techniques should be apllied AGAINST YOUR WILL, as they were to American prisoners of war in Korea when the term came into popular use.
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  John Walker

  by mike047 in

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  the u.s. government is returning john walker to the states for trial.

  what do you consider an appropriate punishment for his mis-deeds?.

  i think, he should be[if found guilty]stipped of his citizenship and returned to somewhere in the mideast to spend the rest of his life,with no possibility to return to the u.s. for any reason.

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  Nathan Natas

  If Johnny Walker Taliban wants to be a martyr for Islam we should help him achieve his goal. Ghosts have no power. To paraphrase General Patton, let the poor son-of-a-bitch die for HIS beliefs.